
Podcast episode
Prospecting at scale without compromising personalization (Alan Shen, Data Account Executive @ Pave)
30 Minutes to President's Club20 Apr 202230 min
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Join the most tactical sales newsletter in the world: https://hubs.ly/Q01-R33G0 FOUR ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Split your prospecting in 3 buckets (find 25 accounts, research 25, sequence 25). Run a report for any accounts with “[in]” activity when pulling prospects. Look for the same 3-4 key triggers every time you’re researching prospects. Build snippets for each of those triggers to personalize at scale. PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB Data Account Executive @ Pave RESOURCES DISCUSSED Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal 30MPC Training: 30mpc.com/training
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We start every single episode with your top three actionable takeaways. So let's get your three. Yeah. Awesome. Thanks for having me. So the first one is use the 80-20 rule to focus on the right accounts. Certain accounts in your book have better ROI than others. For example, a closed loss account, which is an account you've engaged in a previous “sales cycle with, it's more likely to get them to re-engage with you in conversation” compared to a net new account, a completely new account that you've never heard of before or they've never heard of you before. So what to do here is bucket the different types of accounts and prioritize them based on ROI. For example, tier one closed loss, tier two, previous meeting you've met with them in the past. Tier three, they have given you a warm response through email or phone and work through them based on that priority.
so that you can start finding contacts and sequencing and either getting in or getting out with that account? The first thing to do is not to do all 500 at once. I think I fell into that trap previously where I'm trying to tear and research from all my accounts all in one go, and I think that definitely is not the way to do it. “You just not have enough time to actually do the outreach you need.” Typically, the way I would like to do it is I'm splitting up 25 accounts to 50 accounts every single week, and the things I'm looking for are specific triggers that I've found that I've worked previously in the past when it comes to responses, so customizations on things like how fast are they growing, are they hiring a lot of people, are they the
How do I start to personalize that scale and make sure I don't reinvent the wheel every single time I find that trigger? So I think it all comes down to the wording of the email specifically, where things are ambiguous enough to know that it fits in every single time you use that variable, for example. “But at the same time, it looks personalized that you spent time creating that email itself.” So for example, one thing I would say is, during one of my emails that I reach out when it comes to people ops personas is, hey, first name, we've heard from other HR folks in the VC portfolio, that the upcoming merit cycle is typically a massive headache. So a sentence like that, you can throw in any VC and it'll still make sense, right?
then defer just to auto emails that are more generalized and don't have specific information there? What does that almost decay curve of personalization look like for you? I think typically the decay curve does seem to kick in later on in the sequence, but there are still instances where I still want to use the “So for example, it would be cold calling, right?” When I'm cold calling someone, I have my outreach first emails open. So if in the case that they pick up the call and I am giving them, and I've gone to the pitch right, cold call opener, all sorted, can I borrow 27 seconds, all good to go. I'm weaving in different points of customization. I'm saying, hey look, you
But oftentimes, what will happen is a prospect won't put their full last name on their LinkedIn page. So for example, it would be Alan S. And one trick that I found out there was if you really notice in the URL section, sometimes they will put their full sort of username there. And oftentimes, that includes their last name. “So if the email that you need to reach out to is first.last, there you go.” You just found their last name to sort of utilize there. Zoom info has intense scoring, right? So for some magical reason, they have a really interesting way. You can find out whether or not someone's been looking to you. And using that, again, as signal to figure out whether or not this account is, one, interested in you. Two, if they exist, if they don't exist in your Salesforce account, grab that and just work it.
Yeah, great question. No. So the big part of that I didn't mention would be the outbounding. So for example, in the mornings, I like to maintain that as cold calls, right? That's another thing that I think Armand and the team taught me really well was be consistent. If you're doing $200 a week, do $40 a day. So there's a similar block in my mornings where it's like 10 to 11 typically or 9 to “11 where I'm just cold calling.” And every time I have meetings or anything else, it gets slotted between those big time blocks. And in afternoons, I always want to maintain and keep that research and tiering block there as well. And it's become a really good habit because I think sometimes when, look, we all fall behind sometimes, right? And it's a Tuesday or Wednesday and I'm like, oh, I mentally know now I should have
had already 30 account sequence ready to go, but I've only have 15. So I need to set up and get to that number. So that way I know I'm hitting my weekly goal. And that mini goal aspect of it has been really helpful. So just to play this back, how you're planning your week. Each day, you're doing a little bit of outbound, right? “So a little bit of cold calling every single day, oftentimes in the morning.” But every day you are taking sort of the non-golden tasks of account research, sequencing, what have you. And you're breaking those into different activities across different days. So on your first day, it might be finding 25 accounts. On Tuesday, it's researching 25 accounts.
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