
Podcast episode
How to Close Bigger Deals by Doing LESS in the First Call | Steven Bryerton
30 Minutes to President's Club5 Aug 202537 min
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🏋 30MPC Training: 30mpc.com/training 📧 Cold Email Course: http://bit.ly/44K6jy3 ☎️ Cold Call Course: https://bit.ly/4jqQ4w2 🔮 Discovery Course: https://bit.ly/4cQYaM8 🛠️ Free Toolkits: http://bit.ly/4nZwvO5 Steven Breyerton, SVP of Sales at ZoomInfo, reveals how he took his team from transactional closes to enterprise-level deals by rethinking win rates, redefining SDR comp plans, and operationalizing deeper discovery. This episode is a tactical roadmap for sales leaders ready to level up their pipeline and close bigger, higher-quality deals. 🎙️ ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS Track win rates by time cohort (T0, T1, etc.) to diagnose deal velocity, rep behavior, and coaching opportunities across segments. Incentivize quality over quantity in SDR comp plans by weighting toward qualified meetings and multi-threading efforts instead of raw meeting volume. Adopt frameworks like MEDDPICC (ICE-first) to strengthen discovery and identify pain, champions, and economic buyers early in the sales cycle. Segment daily metrics by segment type (SMB vs. enterprise) to ensure appropriate pacing, forecasting accuracy, and ASP growth strategies. STEVEN’S PATH TO PRESIDENT’S CLUB: SVP of Sales @ ZoomInfo Vice President of Sales @ DiscoverOrg RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Metrics Playbook Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal Save $50 on any 30MPC course with code “PODCAST” Free Sales Templates, Scripts and Guides
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Yeah, that was the first one, the prioritization, which accounts now and why, and then that's not a stagnant list, right? “Like looking at signals and all of the other things, market changes around, look in Q2 and Q1, there was a lot that changed geopolitically.” And so like, you know, re-rack the deck, so I think that's number one. To your question on the SDR stuff, before, it very much was a volume gig. They, you know, if they were an outbound SDR, which we have them broken out by inbounds and outbounds.
Yeah, that was the first one, the prioritization, which accounts now and why, and then that's not a stagnant list, right? Like looking at signals and all of the other things, market changes around, look in Q2 and Q1, there was a lot that changed geopolitically. “And so like, you know, re-rack the deck, so I think that's number one.” To your question on the SDR stuff, before, it very much was a volume gig. They, you know, if they were an outbound SDR, which we have them broken out by inbounds and outbounds.
But so much of like your comp and accelerators were on the front ends on a good fit meeting completed. “And so they started to realize like, hey, I can rack up a decent commission check by just getting a large volume of meetings.” And so we worked with our SDR leadership team to sort of restructure some of that. Hey, let's lower the meeting complete target substantially.
And so they started to realize like, hey, I can rack up a decent commission check by just getting a large volume of meetings. And so we worked with our SDR leadership team to sort of restructure some of that. Hey, let's lower the meeting complete target substantially. “Let's introduce some qualification where we both agree that this meeting shouldn't be a completed good fit that results in an opportunity, because that was always a tension point.” Like what's a good fit for you and your definition might not meet mark standards, right? And so we standardized that of these are the things that are a good fit complete is. And then that way there was no more tension between, I shouldn't say no more, there was less tension between an SDR and AE.
So I can cruise, like, how do you balance that? Yeah, I think there's still the balancing act is still, they're not, they're not done once they sort of set the meeting. So, especially in enterprise and as you move up market on our team, as an SDR, there's that progression as well. “So you go from like SMB to mid market to an enterprise SDR, the highest, you know, once you start to get to mid market enterprise, you get paired one to one with an AE.” And so they do have this, this tight connection where you are working the pipe together.
Comping SDRs for helping create multi-threading and stuff in active deals? “There is a component, yeah, for sure. So this is one that's gone like,” if you look at our comp plans, it sort of goes back and forth. Like we've had it, we've taken it away, or we've taken it down, we've put it back in. Because we are, by segment, trying to balance the right motion. SMB, it should really just be about demo ones, pipe creation.
Comping SDRs for helping create multi-threading and stuff in active deals? There is a component, yeah, for sure. So this is one that's gone like, if you look at our comp plans, it sort of goes back and forth. Like we've had it, we've taken it away, or we've taken it down, we've put it back in. “Because we are, by segment, trying to balance the right motion.” SMB, it should really just be about demo ones, pipe creation. You know, you're a 10-person company, that's on the account executive, where you go find the other people, right? But as you have a larger account, a larger book of business, that is a lot of work to go and do.
that is a lot of work to go and do. And so there is a portion of, hey, you need at least this number of demo ones. And then we will also comp you on demo two, so long as it doesn't become like too large of a ratio, where you're just focused on farming the net, the existing accounts, “and you're not actually helping me create new pipeline.” So that's where we'll put some of those guidelines, whether it's a ratio or, you know, once you get through quota, then you can go do this sort of thing. And you don't have to screen share your exact comp plan now, but if I wanted to go and implement this today, in like a mid-market or an enterprise sale,
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