
Podcast episode
How to Lead a Sales Team From $0 to $100M in 8-Years
30 Minutes to President's Club21 Nov 202437 min
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Mark Kosoglow walks through the key skills, responsibilities, and attributes for a Sales Leader at each phase of company growth Doer Phase (0 to $1M ARR): The initial stage focused on finding product-market fit. The sales leader handles everything, including cold calls, demos, building sales systems, and refining the sales process. They act as an individual contributor, ensuring the company moves forward without distracting other key team members. Key trait: Being a hands-on, self-reliant executor. Builder Phase ($1M to $10M ARR): The leader transitions to hiring and scaling the team, typically starting with individual contributors (AEs and SDRs). Still involved in selling but begins to set foundational systems, processes, and training. They document best practices and create repeatable frameworks while maintaining some "doer" responsibilities. Key trait: Hiring and building effective teams and processes. Doctor Phase ($10M to $25M ARR): The leader becomes more metrics-driven, focusing on diagnosing and optimizing performance based on data. Begins managing managers and spending more time collaborating cross-departmentally (e.g., with RevOps, marketing, and customer success). Key trait: Using data and metrics (L1 and L2) to prevent thrash and fine-tune the organization’s operations. Architect Phase ($25M to $100M ARR): The leader’s role expands to a more executive level, crafting the overall blueprint for the sales organization in alignment with other departments. Focus on segmentation, pricing strategies, and designing compensation plans that drive desired behaviours. They influence larger strategic initiatives and ensure the execution aligns with organizational goals. Key trait: Seeing the big picture and designing a cohesive GTM blueprint. Communicator Phase ($100M+ ARR): The leader’s primary role becomes communication: setting clear expectations, timelines, and evaluating the mental models used by the team to meet goals. The focus shifts outward, ensuring alignment across broader organizational and market dynamics. Key trait: Clear and effective communication to drive alignment and execution at scale. RESOURCES DISCUSSED: Join our weekly newsletter Things you can steal 30MPC Training: 30mpc.com/training
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to diagnose their own problems by themselves. So that's one concept, L1 versus L2. And then the other concept that you need to understand is a volume metric versus a conversion metric. So you need to line up your funnel so that you understand your volume metrics, which typically are your L1 lagging, right? How many calls do we do, right? That's a volume, it's just a number. And then “How many calls do we convert into book meetings” set, right? A volume number is the result of the behavior that creates conversion. So you can never actually change if you book more meetings, but what you can do is you can change how well you convert phone calls into meetings, right? And so that's an important distinction to make sure that you have in your coaching
right? How many calls do we do, right? That's a volume, it's just a number. And then there's the conversion, right? How many calls do we convert into book meetings set, right? A volume number is the result of the behavior that creates conversion. So you can never actually change if you book more meetings, but what you can do is “you can change how well you convert phone calls into meetings, right?” And so that's an important distinction to make sure that you have in your coaching to conversion, which is behavior, versus volume, which is the result of the behavior. Boom. Alright, so we have doctor phase, 10 to 25 million. Let's move on to architect phase, 25 to 100 million, and that is what you consider to be a true VP of sales. That's right. The architect is now
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